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	<title>Los Angeles Bankruptcy Blog &#187; Student Loans</title>
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		<title>Chapter 7 Qualifications: Credit Card and Student Loan Payments Don&#8217;t Count</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Markus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bankruptcy Law]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[chapter 13]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[chapter 7]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[credit card debt]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Student Loans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Chapter 13]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[chapter 7 eligibility]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[credit card]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[means test]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Credit card and student loan payments do not factor in to the analysis for determining Chapter 7 eligibility.  It seems not a day goes by that I&#8217;m not trying to explain to a potential client why their payments to debts owed to unsecured creditors do not count in their budget in determining eligibility to file [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="margin:5px 0px 5px 0px" id="linksalpha_tag_464273095" class="linksalpha-email-button" data-url="http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/2011/01/chapter-7-qualifications/" data-text="Chapter 7 Qualifications: Credit Card and Student Loan Payments Don't Count" data-desc="Credit card and student loan payments do not factor in to the analysis for determining Chapter 7 eligibility.  It seems not a day goes by that I'm not trying to explain to a potential client why their payments to debts owed to unsecured creditors do not count in their budget in determining" data-site="Los Angeles Bankruptcy Blog"></div><script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.linksalpha.com/social/loader?tag_id=linksalpha_tag_464273095&link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bklaw.com%2Fbankruptcy-blog%2F2011%2F01%2Fchapter-7-qualifications%2F&halign=center&fblikeverb=like&fblikeref=linksalpha&fblikefont=arial&v=2&twitterw=110&facebookw=90&googleplus=1&facebook=1&twitter=1&linkedin=1&reddit=1&stumbleupon=1&pinterest=1&identica=1&yammer=1&gmail=1&yahoomail=1&hotmail=1&aolmail=1&mailru=1&email=1&print=1&digg=1&delicious=1&diigo=1&posterous=1&tumblr=1&myspace=1&evernote=1&instapaper=1&readitlater=1&msn=1&livejournal=1&sonico=1&netlog=1&hyves=1&xing=1&vkontakte=1&weibo=1&button=googleplus%2Cfacebook%2Ctwitter%2Clinkedin&gpluslang=en-US&twitterlang=en&xinglang=en&fblikelang=en_US&twitterrelated1=linksalpha&twitterrelated=linksalpha&counters=googleplus%2Cfacebook%2Ctwitter%2Clinkedin"></script><p>Credit card and student loan payments do not factor in to the analysis for determining Chapter 7 eligibility.  It seems not a day goes by that I&#8217;m not trying to explain to a potential client why their payments to debts owed to unsecured creditors do not count in their budget in determining eligibility to file under <a href="http://www.bklaw.com/chapter7/">Chapter 7</a> of the Bankruptcy Code.    They certainly aren&#8217;t an allowed expense on the dreaded &#8220;<a title="bankruptcy means test" href="http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy_terms.html#means-test" target="_blank">means test</a>&#8220;, which uses specific expenses allowed by the IRS.   But it also doesn&#8217;t &#8220;count&#8221; as part of an ordinary current income/expense analysis, which is also used for determining eligibility.  If such an analysis shows a surplus of income, then one may not be eligible for Chapter 7 and may need to do a <a title="Chapter 13 bankruptcy " href="http://www.bklaw.com/chapter13/">Chapter 13</a> or <a title="chapter 11 bankruptcy" href="http://www.bklaw.com/chapter11/" target="_blank">Chapter 11</a> (if too much debt for Chapter 13) repayment plan instead.</p>
<p>A typical scenario is where the client has income of, let&#8217;s say $5,000 per month; $3,800 after taxes.   Their monthly expenses&#8211;as they see them&#8211;are $5,000 per month, so there&#8217;s no way they cannot qualify for a Chapter 7 case in their minds because they have a monthly deficit of $1,200.    But of that $5,000 per month in expenses,  $1,500 are minimum payments on credit cards,  and $600 for student loan payments, neither of which qualify as &#8220;necessary living expenses&#8221; in a bankruptcy case.   So when those are subtracted out, the client has almost $900 per month they can afford to pay to their creditors, according to their budget.    This is probably way too much of a surplus to do a Chapter 7 case.  The court, instead, would want them to repay that amount to their creditors over 36-60 months in a Chapter 13 case.</p>
<p>Doing so may repay anywhere from approximately 10%-100% of their unsecured debts depending on what they owe (with any unpaid portion being discharged in the Chapter 13 or 11 case), but the point is their creditors will be receiving <em>something</em> and that is the criteria.</p>
<p>Except for certain taxes, domestic support obligations and other debts designated as &#8220;priority&#8221; debts under the bankruptcy code (<a title="Section 507 of the Bankruptcy Code" href="http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/11/5/I/507" target="_blank">11 U.S.C. 507</a>)<strong>, you can&#8217;t use credit card payments, student loan payments, or payments on any unsecured debts you owe as an expense in your budget to determine what you can afford to pay to your credit card, student loan, or other unsecured lenders</strong>!  That would be nonsensical.   One stated purpose of the bankruptcy law is to have those that can afford to make payments on their debts do so, and those who can&#8217;t don&#8217;t.   If your budget shows you have the ability to make some meaningful payments on your debts as shown above, you will likely not be eligible for Chapter 7 but will need to take advantage of a different bankruptcy chapter.</p>
<div style="margin:5px 0px 5px 0px" id="linksalpha_tag_1506204602" class="linksalpha-email-button" data-url="http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/2011/01/chapter-7-qualifications/" data-text="Chapter 7 Qualifications: Credit Card and Student Loan Payments Don't Count" data-desc="Credit card and student loan payments do not factor in to the analysis for determining Chapter 7 eligibility.  It seems not a day goes by that I'm not trying to explain to a potential client why their payments to debts owed to unsecured creditors do not count in their budget in determining" data-site="Los Angeles Bankruptcy Blog"></div><script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.linksalpha.com/social/loader?tag_id=linksalpha_tag_1506204602&link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bklaw.com%2Fbankruptcy-blog%2F2011%2F01%2Fchapter-7-qualifications%2F&halign=center&v=2&twitterw=55&googleplus=1&twitter=1&linkedin=1&reddit=1&stumbleupon=1&pinterest=1&identica=1&yammer=1&gmail=1&yahoomail=1&hotmail=1&aolmail=1&mailru=1&email=1&print=1&digg=1&delicious=1&diigo=1&posterous=1&tumblr=1&myspace=1&evernote=1&instapaper=1&readitlater=1&msn=1&livejournal=1&sonico=1&netlog=1&hyves=1&xing=1&vkontakte=1&weibo=1&button=googleplus%2Ctwitter%2Clinkedin%2Creddit%2Cstumbleupon%2Cpinterest&gpluslang=en-US&fbsendlang=en_US&twitterlang=en&xinglang=en&twitterrelated1=linksalpha&twitterrelated=linksalpha"></script>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Private Student Loans in Bankruptcy: Dischargeable?</title>
		<link>http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/2009/12/private-student-loans-in-bankruptcy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Markus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Student Loans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[private student loan]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[student loan]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[undue hardship]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Can you discharge private student loans in a bankruptcy case?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="margin:5px 0px 5px 0px" id="linksalpha_tag_1585120860" class="linksalpha-email-button" data-url="http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/2009/12/private-student-loans-in-bankruptcy/" data-text="Private Student Loans in Bankruptcy: Dischargeable?" data-desc="My question of the week comes from a client who wanted to know if private student loans he owed on were discharged in a bankruptcy case he filed in 2002. For bankruptcy cases filed PRIOR TO October 17, 2005, if the PROGRAM under which a student loan was issued, insured, administered was a" data-site="Los Angeles Bankruptcy Blog"></div><script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.linksalpha.com/social/loader?tag_id=linksalpha_tag_1585120860&link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bklaw.com%2Fbankruptcy-blog%2F2009%2F12%2Fprivate-student-loans-in-bankruptcy%2F&halign=center&fblikeverb=like&fblikeref=linksalpha&fblikefont=arial&v=2&twitterw=110&facebookw=90&googleplus=1&facebook=1&twitter=1&linkedin=1&reddit=1&stumbleupon=1&pinterest=1&identica=1&yammer=1&gmail=1&yahoomail=1&hotmail=1&aolmail=1&mailru=1&email=1&print=1&digg=1&delicious=1&diigo=1&posterous=1&tumblr=1&myspace=1&evernote=1&instapaper=1&readitlater=1&msn=1&livejournal=1&sonico=1&netlog=1&hyves=1&xing=1&vkontakte=1&weibo=1&button=googleplus%2Cfacebook%2Ctwitter%2Clinkedin&gpluslang=en-US&twitterlang=en&xinglang=en&fblikelang=en_US&twitterrelated1=linksalpha&twitterrelated=linksalpha&counters=googleplus%2Cfacebook%2Ctwitter%2Clinkedin"></script><p>My question of the week comes from a client who wanted to know if private student loans he owed on were discharged in a bankruptcy case he filed in 2002.</p>
<p>For bankruptcy cases filed PRIOR TO October 17, 2005, if the PROGRAM under which a student loan was issued, insured, administered was a FOR-profit, PRIVATE (non-government) entity, the loan/debt may have been discharged. However, if the program itself, such as LAL, GSL, etc. received nonprofit funding by participation of nonprofit entities, the loan is not dischargeable in bankruptcy.</p>
<p>To see a ninth circuit case which examines the private vs. government distinction on student loans in bankruptcy, see <a href="http://www.bklaw.com/chapter7/pilcher.html"> In re Pilcher</a></p>
<p>For bankruptcy cases filed<em> after</em> October 17, 2005, the only way a student loan is dischargeable is if the debtor can prove &#8220;undue hardship&#8221; as that term is interpreted by the courts in whatever district the case is filed in.   It is a difficult standard to meet, and the vast majority of student loan debts are not dischargeable.</p>
<p>To see more on how the undue hardship test is applied in the ninth circuit, see <a href="http://www.bklaw.com/chapter7/student_loans.html">http://www.bklaw.com/chapter7/student_loans.html</a></p>
<p>For cases filed prior to October 7, 1998, student loans were dischargeable if they were in repayment status for a certain period of time.</p>
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